Comments on: Know what Ancient Maya said about Adobe Flash Apocalypse? http://www.flashscope.com/blog/know-what-ancient-maya-said-about-adobe-flash-apocalypse/ Blogging about flash, flex and AS Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:17:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Ron Priest http://www.flashscope.com/blog/know-what-ancient-maya-said-about-adobe-flash-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-749 Ron Priest Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:46:31 +0000 http://www.flashscope.com/blog/?p=265#comment-749 You said "RECAP: HTML 5 is not a dummy for sure, but it’s not a threat to Flash either. At least so far. Even being charitable and assuming that HTML 5 becomes strong enough to kills Flash, it is going to be at least 10 years before it happens, and that’s is a whole lifetime in Internet years." What qualifies that statement? Ten years? Did you just pick that number out of a hat? You said “RECAP: HTML 5 is not a dummy for sure, but it’s not a threat to Flash either. At least so far. Even being charitable and assuming that HTML 5 becomes strong enough to kills Flash, it is going to be at least 10 years before it happens, and that’s is a whole lifetime in Internet years.”

What qualifies that statement? Ten years? Did you just pick that number out of a hat?

]]> By: Chris http://www.flashscope.com/blog/know-what-ancient-maya-said-about-adobe-flash-apocalypse/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Chris Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:22:57 +0000 http://www.flashscope.com/blog/?p=265#comment-182 I agree generally with what you have said. Although it is really HTML5+CSS3 which is the threat to Flash not just HTML5. The real question is why have commentators and users jumped all over this perceived battle? One obvious niche are the Applephiles with their allegiance to Jobs. Although the iPad and iPhone sparked the debate, I don't think it is the crux of the issue. I think it is down to Adobes quality control and performance testing. Their software just doesn't seem tested or optimised anymore. Where we can compare like for like in web plugins (PDF) the Adobe version is usually larger, slower and buggier. You then have the debacle of CS4's interface, speed and horid non-icons. It is a shame as I believe what Flash and the other Adobe products do is great, how they perform it is often questionable. The result is Adobe is slowly being seen as the problem. They really need to rescue the situation in general otherwise they could have the brand image of Yahoo! where no matter how good their products are, no one wants to know. Adobe has the benfit of having few 1:1 competitors, but as I mentioned the debate is a sympton of those alternatives being unavailable. I agree generally with what you have said. Although it is really HTML5+CSS3 which is the threat to Flash not just HTML5.

The real question is why have commentators and users jumped all over this perceived battle?

One obvious niche are the Applephiles with their allegiance to Jobs. Although the iPad and iPhone sparked the debate, I don’t think it is the crux of the issue.

I think it is down to Adobes quality control and performance testing. Their software just doesn’t seem tested or optimised anymore. Where we can compare like for like in web plugins (PDF) the Adobe version is usually larger, slower and buggier. You then have the debacle of CS4’s interface, speed and horid non-icons.

It is a shame as I believe what Flash and the other Adobe products do is great, how they perform it is often questionable. The result is Adobe is slowly being seen as the problem. They really need to rescue the situation in general otherwise they could have the brand image of Yahoo! where no matter how good their products are, no one wants to know.

Adobe has the benfit of having few 1:1 competitors, but as I mentioned the debate is a sympton of those alternatives being unavailable.

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